Christina's rep confirms.....
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Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 18:09
Christina's rep confirms.....
Christina's rep confirmed that she and Jordan are seperated but have not decided on divorce. She said they are both devoted to their son
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/10/12/christina.ag...
For real. What else are you supposed to make of that?! Like candee said, it's not necessary to dot all the "i's" and cross all the "t's" but jeez.... I think Christina pretty much did that for us by changing the lyrics.
that came straight from the horse's mouth
@Beautiful: Here is the link to the video where she changed the lyrics. It's after the second verse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvsMOFn36Y0
i just want christina to focus more on her music.i miss her already
@candee2 + phantom11: How do you know she changed the lyrics?
I have to say I know its abit late but I am really upset about this, I love Christina done get me wrong and I would never stop loving and respecting her but by her comments its sounds to me like they have gotten in a routine she done burlesque and was away from it all, then she met this matt guy and got attention obviously and it was different and she got excited and once your head is in another place you can make problems there that aren’t even there. And it just spiralled out of control, and she left Jordan for this guy I mean she said there is love there (lust) and she can spend hours on the phone with him but ye she prob will cause she doesn’t know him so there loads to talk about I just bit sad that she has given up so easily she seams to have changed and be going through stuff you can tell even in interviews. I hope she is ok and ill stand by her hope she can be happy again.
She also shook her heard before singing that part almost like "no-no".
Yeah there's alot of stuff she doesen't come out and say.
bluerose, it was more like, oh well, it happened.
Christina's life isn't so much as an open book, not as open as some like the twitters of today, she just rarely keeps secrets forever. Christina herself, is an open book, you just gotta get her talking. She speaks her mind usually, as zany as it can be at times.
But we still only get like a tiny piece of what her life is, especially compared to most celebrities nowadays.
@Candee: Did she really change the lyrics? If so, I wonder how she sounded when she sang it. For instance, did she sing it shamefully like she was admitting she cheated and was wrong? Or did she sing it like she was mocking the whole situation about it and was almost laughing about it?
There's no real simple answer.
it's really hard to define what should be private and what should be public for a celebrity like her. considering she's the one opening up about her life, her pains, struggles to the public through her songs and interviews. her life is clearly an open book. and when she said that "out of respect thing for my husband" i knew right away it's total bs since i know for a fact she would write songs about it/him. i agree with bluerose, because there's always two sides in every story. just because we are xtina fans we dont have the right to call her out on some things we dont agree on? that's narrow-mindedness. don't we have our own set of values to begin with taught to us by our parents?
"and her changing the lyrics to a song to say, 'I couldn't keep my hands to myself',"
Yeah that's the pink elephant in the room and what I meant by stretching it. That happened at that private party didn't it? Who knows, maybe she didn't think it would get out. That's the only reason I can think of.
People couldn't pull that off in 96, let alone in 2010 where you got videos of a gunman taking hostages at a schoolboard meeting. Everything is out there.
"The People interview"
All I gotta say is, if she was trying to stop the rumours, she failed. It's had the opposite effect, and once again I said it was stretching it.
Maybe judge wasn't the right word(a failling I'll admit I have about not finding the right words). I didn't mean anything nasty by it.
I, in no way, was trying to pass judgement on Christina. That's one thing she has always tried to express to us....is to never judge other people and to accept them for who they are. However, I just don't agree with her new relationship. I'm leaving it at that.
Also, I have a pretty good feeling that if the tables were turned and Jordan was the one out with a new woman so quickly after filing for divorce that A LOT of people here would be bashing him and saying what a horrible person he is for supposedly cheating on Christina. Everyone is saying that since Christina seems happy, we should be happy, but again....if it was the other way around, no one would be saying we should be happy for Jordan.
I see your point dee.
Actually, who you hang your hat on is a choice too, let's say you can't stand a fake person or a liar, and that's what someone you have loved for centuries become. I don't think it's a matter of judging them, it's matter of whether or not you will stay blind and a hypocrite and make excuses or you call a spade a spade.
For me, none of the things I do or see has to do with just 1 person in my life, I look at things and situations the same, whether it's the hooker on the street, the hooker in my house, or the hooker on tv.
Ain't nobody special enough to me not to be called a hooker.
That's just an example, I'm totally not talking about Xtina, just commenting on the last couple of comments under me.
And that, 'she's happy so we should be too' is an irritating saying, because my love may be blind, it's not facetious. I have a niece that sneaks off to have sex with her boyfriend. She's 14 and happy as a clam. I have another niece that's 21 and in love with someone who blackens her eyes every other week, she's even happier. What's love got to do with happiness?
If my loved one was happy but about to step off a cliff, excuse me for not cheering in happiness, just because they are happy but stupid does not mean that I gotta be too.
Again, not about Christina. Just speaking in general, general as in my stupid nieces. But, basically, what I'm trying to say, it's not about judging a PERSON, it's about stating a belief you have. For me, I'm not reading gossip nor looking at pics, I only ever read or hear Christina's words, I don't have to judge her, just taking her by her words is bad enough. lawd knows. The People interview and her changing the lyrics to a song to say, 'I couldn't keep my hands to myself', pretty much sends a certain message, so I can see the cheating theory evolving. But trying to dot all the "i"s and cross all the "t"s is totally not necessary, I have to say.
"The picture of Christina with Matt in that People magazine scan disputes everything she said regarding their relationship. In that picture, she's wearing her wig from the movie so obviously something was going on BEFORE the divorce. 'Nuff said..."
Call me a stan, say I need to take off the rose-tinted glasses or stop playing devil's advocate here but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt as far as this is concerned. Though it is a bit of a stretch given what was said about when her and Matt got together, who knows.
Only they do.
It's her life afterall and I don't think anyone on here can honsetly pass judgement on it anymore than she can pass judgement on the choices we make.
WOW!!! I dont understand why everyone is so up in arms about a choice she made about her life!!! She has a hellva voice and her summer tour will be the greatest!!! No one knows what happened in their relationship. From the interviews that i have heard and read sounds like they just grew apart and she realized it while away. Sometimes being apart brings u closer and sometimes u realize its time to go. She shouldnt be judged or the focus of so much negitivity for her choice to leave. Bonic is the best album i've heard all year and it has been slept on...She has had a rough year....She needs her fans to stand strong and provide love and support..TEAM XTINA FOR LIFE!!!!
in light of her current situation, i hope and highly recommend to xtina this alan silvestri piece off the forrest gump soundtrack while she watches or lulls max to sleep. it's music coming from heaven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcOt6mfjxeA&playnext=1&list=PL250AD710998...
At the end of the day, personal lives are personal and we can speculate as much as we want but it doesn't actually go anywhere. Live and let live is my motto. As far as Christina is concerned - it is her voice and her music that I wish to continue to hear, I'm not interested in her personal affairs because it's her life. x
The picture of Christina with Matt in that People magazine scan disputes everything she said regarding their relationship. In that picture, she's wearing her wig from the movie so obviously something was going on BEFORE the divorce. 'Nuff said...
I hope to convey a neutral opinion throughout this discussion and hope I have not expressed any judgment or bias. I do not intended on defending either party, including Christina, but I do want to note that she is going to be 30 soon, and I believe at that age a stable life can be troubling I suppose, when the chemicals are in full throttle. Like a grown woman's teenage years. It does appear that during the filming of Burlesque, when she took time away from her life and wandered off into the working world again, Christina was exposed to the vibrancy of being pursued, of dating and flirting and having something in common with someone (such as the movie with Matt) and once returning to her marriage at a critical point in a woman's life, everything seemed foreign to her. It can be a culture shock, after all, she eased into her marriage and current state, only to drop suddenly back into it after a hiatus. Christina likely employed the Italy trip and other various low profile attempts to rekindle what she and Jordan had, but the rift was too much to close.
However, Christina's fans and skeptics question if she gave all of this enough consideration and time. If Matt had been flirting, I would expect Christina to tell him to "Stop, Slow down baby." That is what 2006 Christina would have certainly done. But bear in mind that a lot of tension has been applied to poor Xtina this year. She has endured a lot of unwarranted, insensible and downright undeserving negativity when she should have instead been praised for her innovation and welcomed back to the spotlight like the veteran superstar she has come to be with time. I am not suggesting this validates her actions, but it does complicate matters. After all, when the smoke clears, it isn't all that unlikely that Christina will calm down enough to see that she and Jordan have something significant in common, Max. And that he represents a time when they really were in love. There will come a time she will seek that stability again, in Jordan or in someone else, especially Christina.
im honest to admit that i am not one with xtina in her final decision to file for divorce. i'll just leave it there. ok, on the moving on part, how come xtina is still going home to the same house where they lived as a couple? shouldn't she move to a new place to help her forget and start a new phase? my point is it's hard enough to deal with the divorce situation let alone go home and sleep on the same bed when u were still a "wife" to someone...
I need to make a sorta moderator's note, because ijamseeds comment crossed the line slightly.
No, we don't have to agree with Christina on everything and can state our opinions to a point, but never say things like, 'I hope she knows what she's doing with her personal life' because that is a judgement call not for us to make. Christina isn't perfect, she has a right to make whatever it comes to be out of her personal life. So I don't want that statement to open the door to a conversation that will go waaay over the line.
In the REDBOOK interview she said she wasn't gonna discuss the particulars of the split out of respect for her husband. She did a complete about face not a month later in PEOPLE magazine. She says there is love there for this guy, well that didn't just occur out of the blue AFTER the split, so when she makes a point to say 'we started dating AFTER' it's pointless to me. And yes, to me, she is searching for a reason for the split.
I didn't like or believe any of them. I mean couples argue, that's a given, marriage is a coupling of 2 different minds, they will clash sometimes. Again, pointless to mention, unless the arguments dealt with the elephant that was in the room and she is now dating, perhaps.
the magazine scan
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/53936509.html
I haven't had a chance to read her People interview or the Redbook one. Does anyone know if you can read them online somewhere? From what ijamseeds is saying about the People interview, it seems as though she was purposely looking for something to be wrong with the marriage. Correct me if I'm talking out of line here please! I just don't see Jordan not being the one willing to compromise and want to work things out. Based on the B2B album, it looks like he had to work really hard to earn Christina's trust and love and to be a permanent fixture in her life and then this Matt guy just comes from nowhere and wins her over with minimal effort? I don't get it. Sorry if I'm jumping to conclusions here, but it appears nice guys do finish last in this one.
her people mag interview is quite a shock. When she mentioned about that process she went through in making burlesque it was already a give away on why she left her marriage for good. i personally think she fell out of love with jordan when that assistant started to exist in her life. suddenly, she saw problems in her marriage when she goes home after a shoot? this assistant guy really is something. and i thought cam gigandet would be the third party in all this because of an intimate scene in the movie. I REALLY HOPE SHE KNOWS WHAT SHE'S DOING IN HER PERSONAL LIFE. God i hope so
Well, I would like to give Christina the benefit of the doubt since we don't know all the personal details, but as it appears now, it is true that Christina seems misguided. But believe me, she is a rational and intelligent person. So I do have high hopes and standards for her, I'll just give her some time. I don't like to judge people either, but I will have an opinion on this matter when it resolves.
I'm with Candee on this. As an artist, I'll give Christina her props and respect for being one of the most amazing vocalists of all time. But right now, as a person, I'm finding it hard to be supportive of her decisions in her personal life. I, too, feel bad for Jordan and Max. I actually was comfortable with the fact that she was willing to keep the details private, but with the candid interviews and photos of her with Matt, it makes me wonder if everything she said before was just to save face. I'm not sure what changes Christina is going through right now, but I don't like them. I also don't believe her when she says that she didn't start dating Matt until after she filed for divorce. C'mon now...she met the guy a year ago on the set of Burlesque. I just hope she doesn't end up regretting her decision to end her marriage because I truly believe Karma is a b**ch.
I know a lot of people are checking this thread, so I just want to make a note to please check the Creative Corner for a Christina Birthday Video project. I seem to be the only person who has replied so far, but I would love if all her fans can get in on this idea so the user can make a really nice video for Xtina.
I have my hopes and my doubts. Both are equally plausible at this point. Two new songs were added bu Christina to some official database (the name escapes me) but she is planning to record in January, a new album so... it can go either way honestly. Either a re-release, or they are tracks off the new record.
No, I don't. Looks like she is as over Bionic as she is her marriage.
I will be happy to be proven wrong, we'll have to see. Unless Sony/BMG has a plan, I just don't see it.
Do you feel there is truly a chance for a Bionic re-release, considering all we have heard from Christina herself?
The book comment was a play on the words she used so flippantly on one of the shows she was intervied on recently, when she said,'I've turned a page and entered into a new chapter in my life'.
IMO, Ghis, it looks like Christina has thrown everything but Burlesque into the divorce bin with everything else. And that's just going on what she has presented to us lately.
I included everything when I made that book comment and not liking what I'm seeing from it, including business.
"And I am not happy with the neew book she has chosen to write. Whatever, her life." - What am I missing here? What kind of book, where can I read more of it on this forum?
Well, I somehow feel we should not forget that Christina has to run a business here.
Bionic still current, Burlesque being brand-new, not to forget what she may be planning for the future, provided one could trust those rumours emerging once in a while.
'Marital trouble' of any sort could be as welcome as excess Plutonium, tainting all you do.
Therefore, I would not only be "talking my ass off" if I were her, I'd have it on constant rewind, making full use of the former NATO principle going by "advanced defense" (which meant approx. "Hit them while they are still trying to figure out who did...").
Also - and very well, at least with me: I am booked, biased, and prejudiced... her unique voice will call me down from Heaven, resurrect me from the Dead, and mesmerize me up from Hell... that's just the way it is... (courtesy Bruce Hornsby)...
Well, I do feel Christina has been rather respectful towards Jordan while still providing details to the media who relay it to us fans. It isn't awful that she keeps us a bit updated since Christina did get us rather involved with her marriage by making Back to Basics so personal and writing many songs about Jordan and her marriage. It's just a very delicate matter to balance, especially when you're a celebrity, and the demand for details is such a burden.
It is just confusing because a lot of fans including myself felt Christina could work through anything with Jordan. I'm more curious about Christina's mentality and just what was so great of a problem to rift them apart, rather than details about the divorce. You know? I don't want to infer things but I did lift a brow when I read she was already seeing someone right after she divorced, and more importantly, it was someone from the Burlesque cast... considering that the issues started right after she returned from filming that. You're probably correct Candee... it doesn't appear to be Jordan. I think Christina just got very invigorated when she was out there and chose the thrill of being wooed and out there dating than confined to a marriage already, and perhaps that Matt guy played a part. Either way, I'm not intentionally inferring something, only trying to make sense of what Christina has already claimed, because at times it is quite difficult to understand the information that is being provided when we're lead to believe otherwise for a while.
Actually, Christina is talking her ass off, even after she said she would be respectful towards Jordan, that lasted like 2 weeks maybe. I wish she would be hushed, she is the one that's the loudest, whether it's in words or by actions.
When you put your business out there on the street it ceases being private, we just have to watch how we discuss it on these forums. BUT, Jordan has not put his business out on the street, so I just would rather we not automatically infer things about him from listening to Christina, imo, her vision is flawed, therefore biased.
To me, that People magazine shines a truer light as to who she has become then the REDBOOK story. If you want to read the entire article let me know.
Of course people change, but change is not a divorce issue. Marriage is serious business, but amongst too many, those vows are repeated by deaf people. That's why in Hollywood divorce is probably even higher than the national average. Hollywood is deaf, dumb, and blind. Doesn't mean we have to be too.
They say that all is fair in Love and War... two apparently fundamentally different principles being mentioned in one breath could tell us something, namely, that if push comes to shove: 'Love is a Battlefield' (courtesy Pat Benatar, almost 30 years ago).
I don't know what finally went wrong between Christina and Jordan, causing the scales to toggle towards the 'bust' section.
And, actually, I would prefer us fans not trying to know more than what the two of them might be willing to tell to the press while not being under any type of coercion.
It's a PRIVATE thing after all, isn't it?
And better an end, even if occasionally a horrific one, than horror never ending... I have seen some marriages where most - if not all - involved would have preferred to split like the day before yesterday, but they were still together due to bone-hard economical reasons outranking anybody's preferences...
I don't know the exact numbers, but I think the statistics say roughly two thirds of all marriages will end up being divorced...
My wish would have been, though, it could have been different for Christina and Jordan and Max.
Times change, people change, there are comparatively few constants beside that...
That wouldn't be Jordan though, he has always been supportive, he has never held her back, so unless she says that directly, I will not go there. Looks to me, she is the one that changed, just by seeing how quickly she jumped from a loving marriage into holding hands with some guy from Mars, tells it's own story for me.
And I am not happy with the neew book she has chosen to write. Whatever, her life.
I feel very bad for Jordan and Max, not so much for Christina, no reason to, she seems pretty spry happy to me.
Obviously was a lie. Moving on from people who are irrelevant...
I was wondering, Christina has yet to disclose precisely why she divorced, right? She has dropped hints of course, and she is not expected to disclose any personal information. But I did read her comments in Redbook yesterday, and she stated that filming Burlesque was the turning point for her. Granted filming would have drawn Christina away just because of the time and dedication involved with being an actress. But she claims even after she completed Burlesque, she didn't feel right in her own shoes coming back home feeling so inspired, and then she vaguely mentioned how disagreements ensued between she an Jordan, or more approptiately, that a common ground could not be found.
I don't know, but I would hazard an educated guess that after staying at home for some time to be a mom, Burlesque got Christina feeling like her old musically and publicly active self again, with the desire to slip back into making music, videos, performances and concerts but Jordan preferred to keep everything as-is. Does anyone else feel it may have been a struggle between career and marriage?
@ijamseeds: just Google "Christina Aguilera & Dallas Austin" and you'll see what I'm talking about. The rumors happened a few years ago and are too revolting to discuss on her official site.
Bitter much Dallas?
@bluerose what now?
Ugh, Dallas Austin is such a douche. On his Twitter, he says "YAY NOW WE GET JORDY BACK !!!! WOO HOO!!!!!!" and then says "Twitter haters need to get a life ...congrats to JB !"
I guess he's still a little bitter about Christina setting things straight about all of those nasty rumors he said about her and Joss Stone.
Yeah, you're right it was probably a blessing in disguise. So onward with the show with happiness and peace and love.
"Phantom, I'd be running this show."
With an iron fist?
It's just a matter of keeping discussion sensible, fair and respectful. Everybody is happy then. x
Yeah Dee keeps us sane. I mean I could easily lose it. I remember very clearly my mother singing live on commercial radio when I was 6 years old. And if not for a missed phonecall because of a jealous boyfriend...
Phantom, I'd be running this show.
So things are under watch on here but allowed. That's fair.